Oracle v. Google - The Copyright Issues ... Today is the due date for Dr. Cockburn's third attempt at a damages report on behalf of Oracle, and just to make sure Oracle knows what needs to be submitted, Judge Alsup has issue a reminder order. (709 [PDF; Text]) The judge wants to see not only the report but also all of the related reports and studies that support it.
To recap what this third report is to address if Oracle wants to argue these points on damages:
Oracle v. Google - Moving the Case Along ...
Just because the Oracle v. Google case has not been set for trial (and won't be until at least the time at which Oracle provides its third attempt at a damages report) does not mean the court can't move the case along, and that is what Judge Alsup has done with his latest order. In an attempt to narrow the issues to be argued at trial, Judge Alsup's latest order (708 [PDF; Text]) focuses on the copyright issues and directs the parties to provide opening briefs in which they identify each remaining claim of copyright liability and the affirmative defenses to each such claim. In addition, the parties are to identify those issues that should be resolved by the court and those underlying facts that first need to be decided by the jury.
This order adds to a somewhat lengthy litany of filings due from each party under various orders in effect at this time. The timeline for those responses is:
The Latest on the Barnes and Noble Patent Misuse Defense - Some AntiFUD ~pj ...
I'm seeing a couple of articles about an initial determination by the ITC against Barnes & Noble on its patent misuse defense, and there's quite a lot of spin on the ball, thanks to the usual suspects. They are reading a lot into a title of a sealed document. I see many misstatements.
So I'll explain a little about the process, so you can understand it. For one thing, the title of the sealed ITC initial determination is called an *initial* determination for a reason. It means it isn't final. The final one comes later. Initial determinations can be reviewed by the full ITC if the defendant petitions for review and even one Commissioner says yes.
Litigation isn't like football. It is rarely suddenly over.
Most importantly, the materials and depositions Barnes & Noble is seeking in discovery from Nokia and MOSAID have not yet arrived, although the ITC did
grant Barnes & Noble's motion to ask Finland and Canada to provide them, and that's still ongoing, so there is likely more to go, even at the ITC. So with those materials not yet in hand, Microsoft's statement today that this means the defense is meritless is... well... to put it kindly premature. I mean, if a determination is made without the complete record being available, what does it mean?
Oracle v. Google - Google On The Hot Seat On Marking Issue ...
Judge Alsup has considered the joint submission by the parties on the subject of patent marking as well as their supplemental filings (706 [PDF; Text]), and he has come out firing at Google. In a strongly worded order (707 [PDF; Text]) the court has strongly criticized Google for failing to live up to its obligations under the joint stipulation entered by the parties with respect to evidence of patent marking, declaring it:
[I]t is manifestly clear that Google failed to comply with its own stipulated procedure.Fortunately for Google, they will get another opportunity to comply.
Oracle v. Google - Patent Marking - Closing the Gap ... Oracle and Google have now filed their joint statement on patent marking (706 [PDF; Text]) as required by the court's supplemental order of December 6 (641 [PDF; Text]) Although reading the joint statement may give one the impression that the parties' positions are far apart (and they are), that doesn't mean that the joint statement hasn't closed the gap on the marking issue. In fact, it appears to have closed the gap significantly and in Google's favor.
You will recall that after the Judge Alsup issued his December 6 supplemental order the parties filed a joint stipulation on what they were to do. That stipulation provided:
Barnes and Noble and MS Agree: Ballmer Will Not Have to Testify Live at ITC, and Some Antitrust Homework ~pj ...
B&N and Microsoft have come to an agreement about Steve Ballmer's participation in the Microsoft v. Barnes & Noble action at the ITC. They were
arguing about it, and they've now agreed that Ballmer will not have to testify
live at the ITC hearing, currently scheduled for February. Instead, B&N will present designated portions of his deposition, and Microsoft's lawyers have sent a letter [PDF] to the ITC stating officially that it withdraws its motion for a protective order, attaching to the letter a proposed schedule on the parties' next steps in figuring out exactly what each side wants in the way of details. This means there will be no further motion practice on the live testimony issue. But it does mean that Microsoft's effort to have Ballmer avoid being deposed ended with him being deposed.
Meanwhile, I took some time to try to understand why Barnes & Noble is fighting with such vigor, when a patent misuse defense is so hard to win. What do they know that I didn't? I will share with you what I've learned.
Oracle v. Google - Google Wins on Claim Construction Issues ...
The court has sided with Google on two of the three remaining claims construction issues. In an order (704 [PDF; Text]) issued yesterday the court interpreted two terms to have the meaning ascribed by Google and overruled the definition advanced by Oracle. The court has elected to leave the third term for consideration at trial, if necessary.
Oracle v. Google - Oracle to Produce Third Attempt at Damages Report ...
"Oracle America, Inc. will submit a damages report
in accordance with the terms set forth in the
Court's Order."
Mosaid v. Red Hat - MOSAID responds ... Facing numerous filings that either seek to dismiss MOSAID's claims altogether or to block MOSAID from filing a second amended complaint, MOSAID has now responded with a raft of responses. Of course, MOSAID believes the law is on its side and that all parties should remain in the conjoined suit and all of MOSAID's new claims added in the second amended complaint should be permitted. How the court decides these issues will largely determine whether this ends up as one suit or multiple suits. In any case, don't expect MOSAID to back down.
Nokia struggles some more to evade Barnes and Noble's discovery requests ~ pj ... Nokia continues to struggle mightily to get free from Barnes & Noble's discovery requests. Barnes & Noble, you'll recall, succeeded in persuading the ITC to recommend that Finland help it to do depositions of some Nokia executives, including Stephen Elop, and also get its hands on some documents that Nokia isn't willing to provide voluntarily.
So the necessary request documents were sent to Finland, and then Nokia started going wild with efforts to block. And it continues to do so, telling the court all the steps it's taken, and asking ITC to quash the Barnes & Noble motion or in the alternative to advise Finland that it can't provide any discovery until the motion is ruled on. Nokia also has complaints about what it represents to both Finland and the ITC as being Barnes & Noble's misstatements about the case.
And now Microsoft has asked the court to quash a motion to depose Steve Ballmer. It's under seal, but I'm sure we can guess at its contents. After all, we've seen companies try to keep their executives from having to get involved in litigation before, and so far, they all had to testify. Remember SCO v. IBM? Sam Palmisano had to testify because he had "unique personal knowledge", or so the judge believed. If the CEO knows things other people don't, no matter how busy he is, he will likely have to testify. I'm sure Microsoft lawyers know that, so in the alternative, they ask that he be allowed to testify by videoconference.
Oracle Gets a Spanking and a 3rd Try to Come Up With a Usable Expert Damages Report ~ pj ...
The parties in Oracle v. Google have been busy debating whether or not Oracle should be allowed to submit yet a third expert damages report, after the judge found the first two were ridiculously wrong. He didn't accept the way Oracle came up with such huge damages numbers, the very ones that made headlines when the case was new.
Now the judge has issued an order [PDF], an unusual one by his own admission, a conditional order that allows Oracle a kind of limited third try by its expert, Dr. Ian Cockburn, "so long as his methodology conforms to the prior rulings herein". There will be depositions, too, with possible further Daubert motions possible afterwards from both sides. This will all be on Oracle's dime:
Oracle has already had two full and fair opportunities and has overreached on both.So, a third try, subject to the judge's conditions, if Oracle wishes to accept them. Either this judge has the patience of a saint, or he discerns that Oracle's case is falling apart and without a damages report it has zero chance.
Oracle has behaved unreasonably and should bear the burden of the consequences.
Do you remember in the beginning, when this case was new, and a self-described "expert" in the media was pushing the idea that Oracle would win billions and billions in damages? I snorted, if you recall, and now we see it playing out. This judge isn't buying those stratospheric Oracle numbers.
How SOPA and PIPA Affect US Websites and Companies ~pj ...
Khan Academy has provided a very helpful video, "SOPA and PIPA : What SOPA and PIPA are at face value and what they could end up enabling", explaining how SOPA and PIPA would work. It gives the lie to those supporters of the bills who claim it is targeting *only* foreign and illegal sites. Khan Academy, the famous non-profit
educational site, shows how this "shoot-first, ask-questions-later" legislation could affect YouTube, Facebook or CNN, any site with user-generated content.
I hope journalists and members of Congress in particular will view the video, because he goes through the wording of the proposed bills, bit by bit. It's the best I've seen, by far. And for the rest of us, if we see journalists making mistakes in covering this story, why not let them know about this resource in a friendly way?
The First Internet Strike in History a Success ~pj ...
The Washington Post
reports that Rep. Darrell Issa of California, who opposed SOPA/PIPA, has put out a statement saying, "The voice of the Internet community has been heard," and that there will be no vote in the House on the bills so detested by the entire technical and Internet communities.
"Much more education for Members of Congress about the workings of the Internet is essential," Issa says. That's exactly what Groklaw will try to help with. Education is what we do. But you can do it too, if you look for opportunities. It's free for all who wish to help. Clearly they do not understand the technical issues that almost broke the Internet, so why not help out? Most of the blacked-out sites have links to further information. XKCD, for example, has helpful links to explanations regarding some of the technical damage that these bills represented, as well as a link to a complete list of members of Congress. Your comments here are of real value too. By all means, let's help those who don't have a technical background to understand how these Internet "pipes" work, eh? I continue to suggest that each member of Congress consider adding a technical advisor to their staff, so that nothing like this disaster can happen again.
This is tech history, so I've collected screenshots for you of some of the many, many sites that are on strike today. The complete list, with links, is on SOPAstrike.com. I see media reports that Google and Wikipedia are on strike, but this strike turned out to be much larger than that.
Oracle v. Google - Oracle (Sort of) Requests a Third Damages Report ...
What part of the word NO does Oracle not understand? Why is it that legal counsel for Oracle is incapable of complying with a simple, straightforward request from the court? Why does legal counsel for Oracle believe it must rehash, time and again, arguments that have already failed to satisfy the court? If you have answers for any of these questions, you might want to give Oracle a heads up.
In his January 9 order (685 [PDF; Text]) finding largely in favor of Google's request to exclude portions of the Cockburn Damages report, Judge Alsup invited each of the parties to:
"submit 20-page memoranda on whether Dr. Cockburn should be allowed a third try."
Microsoft Files Motion for Judgment as a Matter of Law ... As promised Microsoft has now filed its renewed motion for judgment as a matter of law [PDF; Text] in the Novell case. Nothing terribly surprising here, and we don't know what arguments Microsoft will set forth to support this motion, although Microsoft renews its arguments set forth in its original motion from November 17.
One thing that drips with irony is Microsoft's claims about what a reasonable jury would have done:
Oracle v. Google - Rock, Meet Hard Place ...
As we had predicted when Judge Alsup ruled against Oracle and substantially granted Google's request to exclude portions of the Cockburn [Oracle] damages report, if Oracle decides to attempt a third submission it will significantly delay this trial.
But a third (or fourth or fifth) response by Oracle may be a two-edged sword. Each successive response is almost certain to have an impact on the trial date and will also extend the time available to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to continue invalidating the asserted patents. Oracle could end up doing a revised damages report only to find there has been no damage. Maybe Google should tell the court to allow Oracle all the attempts it needs to accomplish what the court asked Oracle (and Prof. Cockburn) to do last July.Judge Alsup has now confirmed this conundrum in his further ruling on the final pretrial order [PDF; Text]:
Oracle v. Google - The Petition for Writ of Mandamus and Other Continuing Arguments ... Although the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit does not make all documents filed with them public, thanks to the folks at Thomson Reuters, and specifically Alison Frankel, we now have access to the petition for writ of mandamus [PDF], the Oracle response, and a follow-up letter from Google to the court. All three of these documents shed greater light on the wrong Google believes Oracle and the district court have committed.
There are a number of key points that Google drives home in the petition:
- The timing of the email: It is not an email from 2006 when the alleged infringement began; it is an email from the summer of 2010 following Oracle's threat against Google.
- The prejudice shown by Judge Alsup against privileged communication of in-house counsel:
Barnes and Noble Opposes Microsoft's Motion for SJ on Patent Misuse Defense ~pj ... Barnes & Noble has responded to Microsoft's Motion for Leave to Reply to a Barnes & Noble document titled "Barnes & Noble's Statement of Additional Material Facts". It was under seal, as was Microsoft's motion, but Barnes & Noble's Opposition [PDF] isn't, so finally we get to find out a few more clues on what is going on.Also, the parties have stipulated [PDF] to Microsoft dropping from the ITC investigation some of its patent infringement claims, which they say Microsoft is doing "to simplify" the investigation, "streamline the hearing", and conserve resources "in consideration of the amount of time allotted for the hearing". And maybe because they were stupid patents to begin with.
Like *that* could ever be acknowledged by Microsoft in the open air. Quite the contrary. They state that this stipulation "is also not an admission as to the merits of any claim". It just *looks* like that is what it is.
Actually, it's more likely strategic. I was reading up on patent misuse last night, and the Federal Circuit has narrowed what kinds of horrible behavior can be called patent misuse, and one requirement now is that the misuse must be associated with a particular patent. Part of the stipulation says that Barnes & Noble isn't to use the fact that Microsoft dropped these claims "as evidence in support of their affirmative defense of patent misuse" before the ITC, but they can otherwise use them. So that's what that convoluted language is probably about. I'll show you what I mean and what I found.
Oracle v. Google: Strike Two On The Cockburn (Revised) Damages Report ... How many times will Oracle get to submit a proper damages report before the court says enough is enough? Apparently, more than two. The court, having now substantially rejected Oracle's (Prof. Cockburn's) second attempt, is asking both parties whether Oracle should be permitted a third attempt. Let's guess how both the parties will respond.But a third (or fourth or fifth) response by Oracle may be a two-edged sword. Each successive response is almost certain to have an impact on the trial date and will also extend the time available to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to continue invalidating the asserted patents. Oracle could end up doing a revised damages report only to find there has been no damage. Maybe Google should tell the court to allow Oracle all the attempts it needs to accomplish what the court asked Oracle (and Prof. Cockburn) to do last July.
Mosaid v. Red Hat - Before You File A Complaint, Learn The Law (And The Facts) ... If you were a patent holder contemplating suing a bunch of companies for patent infringement, what's the first thing you would want to know? Do you think maybe it would be that you actually own the patent(s) you are asserting. That thought obviously never crossed MOSAID's mind when it brought suit back in August against Red Hat, IBM and others. (See Mosaid v. Red Hat - A new patent infringement complaint aimed at Linux).And if that weren't bad enough, your attorneys then demonstrate they have no clue that the America Invents Act (patent reform act) was signed into law on September 16, 2011, or that pleading patent infringement requires something more than saying I own a patent and you infringe it. These guys can't get anything right.
Nokia Moves To Quash Barnes and Noble's Letter of Request the ITC Sent to Finland Re Discovery ~pj - Updated 2Xs ... Nokia is throwing quite a fit about the ITC approving Barnes & Noble's request that the ITC send a Letter of Request to Finland to ask the country to aid Barnes & Noble to depose five Nokia executives, including CEO Stephen Elop, and provide Barnes & Noble its list of requested Nokia documents.Barnes & Noble, you may recall, is asserting that Microsoft, partnering with Nokia and MOSAID, is plotting "to use patents to drive open source software out of the market," saying it is threatening companies using Android with an anticompetitive choice: pay Microsoft exorbitant rates for patents -- trivial, invalid, or not infringed, according to Barnes & Noble -- or spend a fortune on litigation. It wants discovery to try to prove its claims.
Here's how Nokia took the news. In its Motion to Quash [PDF], Nokia tells the ITC that it immediately contacted Finland and filed objections, and it also contacted the Office of Unfair Import Investigations at the ITC to try to block. And now it asks the ITC to quash the Letter, or in the alternative wait to see what Finland does.
And in a second development, the ITC has denied Microsoft's November motion to force Google to hand over business information about Android, which Google opposed, the Commission saying the requests were unreasonable and not relevant. There was also a second Microsoft motion to depose Google, and the same order grants that motion, which Google had agreed to anyhow. All this means the schedule of discovery in the case has changed, but so far, the hearing is scheduled to be in February. Considering the way Nokia is fighting to quash discovery, threatening an interlocutory appeal if necessary, I'm guessing that date is not going to be the actual date.
Plucky Barnes & Noble is fighting for itself, but this ITC case has the potential to affect the entire Android ecosystem. Barnes & Noble is shining a light on what it views as an anticompetitive plot, with patents just the latest Microsoft weapons of war, probably hoping that if the light is shining right on them, the plotters will be unable to fulfill their unholy scheme. Don't forget that Barnes & Noble has also filed a complaint with the US Department of Justice's Antitrust Division, so it isn't just us chickens who are now watching this play out. That may explain Nokia's determination to avoid discovery. I mean, if there's no such plot, why fight this hard to avoid handing over the contracts?
Oracle v. Google - The Continued Fight Over Damages ... Judge Alsup asked for an assessment of his proposed alternative approach to the determination of patent damages, and he has gotten an earful.On December 27 Judge Alsup set forth a questionable alternative approach to the determination of patent damages in the case, particularly in light of the prior Sun/Google negotiations in 2006. (See 657 [PDF; Text]) We immediately questioned the approach the judge was suggesting and suggested that it would not be received well by Google.
The parties have now filed the responses requested by Judge Alsup, and as we had anticipated, Google is vehement in its objection to this alternative approach. Not surprisingly, Oracle's response is "well, it's okay, but it could be tweaked even more in our favor."
Oracle v. Google - Final Pretrial Order and Order on the Motions In Limine ... A trial date has been set in Oracle v. Google, or more accurately, an earliest trial date has been set. In a final pretrial order issued yesterday (675 [PDF;Text]) Judge Alsup set the earliest date for trial as March 19, 2012. In reality the actual start date will be some time after March 19 since there are attorney conflicts in March, April and May that have been previously identified. This order is merely a recognition that the trial will not start before March 19.In addition, in a separate order Judge Alsup has now disposed of most of the motions in limine (676 [PDF; Text]), and it is a mixed bag for the parties.
How Far Is Too Far In Encouraging Healthy Eating ... Every once in a while (okay, actually way more often than most of us would care to think about) a patent issues that gives one pause. One reading of the patent may suggest a plausible, worthwhile invention that is well-intentioned. But a second reading of the same patent invites a far more concerned reaction.Such is the case with U.S. Patent No. 8,078,492 recently issued to IBM. The title of the '492 patent is "Providing Consumers With Incentives For Healthy Eating Habits," but when does a system move from merely a personal incentive for which one can opt in to a system that may be imposed by the government or an employer? Do either have the right to enforce a particular diet with sanctions?
Consider this statement from the Detailed Description section of the patent, emphasis mine:
Consumption of healthy food may be monitored, for example, according to food purchases, food discarded, and food indicated by a consumer to have been eaten.
Is someone going to dig through your trash to see what you have eaten?
Oracle v. Google - Patent Marking Facts - A Timetable ... When we last visited the parties on the issue of evidence of patent marking, the parties had reached agreement with respect to process but not timetable. (See, More Arguments with Respect to the Cockburn Damages Report) The parties have now reached agreement on the timetable, and it appears a further concession by Oracle that trial is not imminent.Per their agreement (661 [PDF; Text]), by January 6 Oracle will identify and document (either with source code or other printed documentation or by identification of witnesses) those Oracle products, including licensed products, that embody the asserted claims. By January 20 Google will identify any other Oracle or licensed products that practice the asserted claims and/or challenge the products listed by Oracle as to their actual practice of the claims, along with support for Google's position. Finally, following Google's disclosure the parties will meet to try to agree to a list of stipulated practicing products and/or identify products on which they do not agree and why, and that information will be submitted to the court by January 27.
Oracle v. Google - Another Reason for Introducing Non-Final Reexamination Information ... Sometimes you simply don't see all facets of an issue raised at trial. That was certainly the case for me when I read Oracle's letter (656 [PDF; Text]) supporting its motion in limine No. 1 to exclude non-final information from the USPTO reexaminations at trial. Non-final is non-final (meaning Oracle still has a right to appeal or challenge the rulings), and it would be unfair if such information were introduced at trial as evidence of invalidity.What I didn't consider was that there would be a separate legitimate reason for introducing preliminary USPTO findings. That possibility didn't slip past Google, and it has now raised the point that, although such information should be excluded at the time the jury considers the issue of invalidity, the same information should be permitted later on the issue of willfulness. (660 [PDF; Text])
Oracle v. Google - Inquisitive Judge Invites Questionable Approach ... In an order issued yesterday (657 [PDF; Text]) Judge Alsup invited the parties to submit memoranda analyzing an alternative approach to the use of the Sun/Google 2006 negotiation. In so doing Judge Alsup is inviting an almost insoluble problem that can ensnare courts and juries when applying the Georgia-Pacific factors in determining damages. Don't expect Google to leap at this approach.The problem is evidenced in the second numbered paragraph of the Judge's order:
2. The 2008-2011 value is today an arguable indicator of the value Google would have placed on that feature in 2006. True, it is not a precise value because it derives from data as yet unknown in 2006, but it might be a rough indicator of how vital that feature was expected to turn out so long as the marketplace events, as they eventually unfolded, were reasonably predictable in 2006. For example, if in 2011 we now know that feature X has proven to be extremely important to consumers, then the argument would be that the parties in 2006 could reasonably have expected that feature to turn out approximately this way. This expectation then, in turn, would have informed their 2006 negotiation. Again, so far, this line of reasoning has nothing to do with the $100 million offer.
Microsoft Sends Judge Motz Another Letter: Agrees to Mediation of Novell's Antitrust Complaint Re WordPerfect ~ pj ... Last we looked, Microsoft was breathing fire from its nose, telling the judge in the trial of the Novell antitrust complaint against it regarding WordPerfect and QuattroPro that it planned to renew its motion to dismiss as a matter of law by January 13th. This was right after the trial ended in a hung jury, but a jury made up of 12 people, all of whom indicated they thought Microsoft had behaved badly and one, or perhaps more, who couldn't agree about damages. That letter made Microsoft sound confident about a second trial outcome. Or delusional. Take your pick.But look at this: another letter to the Hon. Frederick Motz, in which Microsoft now tells the judge the following:
Microsoft Corporation is amenable to a mediation conducted by a magistrate judge of the Court.
That's a change.
SCO's bankruptcy keeps rolling along ~pj - Updated ... SCO is still around. The bankruptcy continues, of course, because you can't get too much of a good thing. SCO has filed its monthly operating reports for November. And who should show up now but Riverside Claims LLC? Here's what they do. Perhaps they'd like to get their claims paid. What claims, you ask? Well, for example, the claim they had assigned [PDF] to them by a Chinese software provider, Shenyang Neusoft Co. Ltd, long, long ago, in 2008. My, they are patient. It's a claim for $11,364.81. Will they ever get paid? Good luck.I don't know. It's their business, after all, to buy other people's claims and then make debtors pay up, so I don't count them out, but then again Blank Rome, the Chapter 11 Trustee's law firm, has filed some more bills, for September and October. I wonder who will get paid if there isn't enough to go around?
Snort.
And judging by the MORs, I'd suggest there might not be much left in the kitty.
Oracle v. Google - A Last Minute Present to Google from the USPTO ... The USPTO has delivered one final (rejection) holiday package to Google, this one at Oracle's expense. On December 20 the USPTO issued a final rejection in the ex parte reexamination of Oracle's U.S. Patent No. 6,192,476. All of the claims of the patent were subject to reexamination, including Claim 14. Claim 14 of the patent was the only claim being asserted by Oracle in this litigation.In its final rejection the USPTO rejected 17 of the 21 claims of the '476 patent, including all seven of the patent's independent claims. Maybe the number of claims at issue in this litigation will be less than 26 after all.







